Just Leave: Trusting His Call | Mike Pacer | Episode #253

What happens when a trial lawyer hears God tell him to “just leave”?

In this powerful and joy-filled conversation, Mike Pacer shares his remarkable journey from the courtroom to Catholic ministry, publishing, and ultimately the founding of 5 Stones, a powerhouse partner for some of the world's top Catholic apostolates.

Paul Kolker, Nick Bezner, and Jeff Schiefelbein dive deep into:

The story behind 5 Stones and how its five core services empower evangelization.

Mike’s book “Prayers for Catholic Men” and why prayer is both structure and surrender.

Honest talk about spiritual dryness, discernment, and trusting God when consolations fade.

The balance of humility and leadership in building faith-filled workplaces.

A hilariously improvised round of Blessed Are the Joke Makers (complete with a Father Mike Schmitz impersonation).

From arm-rubbing mix-ups in Salt Lake City to authentic lessons on faith, fatherhood, and business, this episode captures the BeatiDudes blend of comedy and Catholic conviction.

Learn more about 5 Stones

weare5stones.com

https://www.weare5stones.com/

Books by Mike Pacer

Prayers for Catholic Men

https://ignatius.com/prayers-for-catholic-men-prcmp/

Mercy and Hope

https://ignatius.com/mercy-and-hope-mhop/

The Three Comings of Christ - Daily Meditations for Advent

https://ignatius.com/the-three-comings-of-christ-tccp/